Bill Covert

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  Vigil held for Burney man who died after being set on fire

  by no password in

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  vigil help for burney man who died after being set on fire.

  community members shared their memories of wicks, a member of the jehovah's witness hall in burney.

  many of them remember him from his post at the shell station, where he worked along with his wife.

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  Wow I did not know he was a JW. But being a apostate cuts off all ties with Burney area. I have been in and out of the Shell station when I would go on service calls to repair trucks east of Burney. Repaired several in the parking area of the Shell station through the years.

  The area has changed from a working mans town ever since the spotted owl shut down the logging. The whole Northern Calif has changed from being lumber communities to pot growing. Sad. When I first read about the attack this mornings paper it was very depressing as to the inhumanity that has made its way to a small community, now to learn he was a JW makes it all that much more saddening.

  Burney/Johnson Park has two Kingdom Halls the old one [I gave public talks there] right next to a new one, I guess the got bit by the drive to build newer hall and could never unload the old one. They set side by side, the old one deserted.

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  2 bilion income from selling HQ now

  by Gorbatchov in

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  the wts has a tax free income of 2 bilion dollar now by selling the brooklyn hq (beside other recent money schemes).

  were has the money gone?.

  it must be somewere.. g..

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  Check out Orphan Crow's video of Lorenz Reibling in Argentina.

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  The con is completed - comments from the US branch's LDC chief

  by sir82 in

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  recently attended a special assembly day.. guest speaker was thomas chicky, a member of the us branch committee and the head of the us ldc (which has replaced the rbcs).. the last talk of the day is scheduled for an hour.

  it was the usual boring mumbo-jumbo.

  he appeared to have blasted through his hour-long outline in just about 45 minutes, so he "treated" us to informal comments on recent developments.. he commented on the new wt complex in fishkill ny.. then he dropped the bomb (well, to anyone with ears and at least 2 functioning synapses).. the following is not a word for quote, but presents the gist of his comments:.

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  Where is the money going? Check out Orphan Crow's video of Lorenz Reibling in Argentina.
  
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  Was kidnap victim Sherri Papini a JW?

  by NikL in

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  sherri papini is that woman kidnapped in california and released on thanksgiving day making the news right now.. during one of the reports this morning on the today show there was a quick scene of an investigation going on at a kingdom hall.

  there was crime tape up and everything.

  credit goes to my wife for catching it.. i just wondered why the kingdom hall was a crime scene when she was abducted and released somewhere else?anybody else catch this?.

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  She was not a JW. She was branded with a message. The Sheriff is fighting the release of information, he did not want her husband to release info about the branding. As of yet what the message contained has not been released. When that becomes known then the vast majority of speculation will be put to rest.

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  Was kidnap victim Sherri Papini a JW?

  by NikL in

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  sherri papini is that woman kidnapped in california and released on thanksgiving day making the news right now.. during one of the reports this morning on the today show there was a quick scene of an investigation going on at a kingdom hall.

  there was crime tape up and everything.

  credit goes to my wife for catching it.. i just wondered why the kingdom hall was a crime scene when she was abducted and released somewhere else?anybody else catch this?.

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  I haven't heard any reference of her being a JW. Her step-father [I think, not exact on relationship] was a really big time business man in the area who went bankrupt, who had no connection with the JW's. So even though the 'iron curtain" of JW shunning surrounds me, I would of heard something.

  Bill Covert Redding Ca.
  
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  Regional mr splane said at regional

  by poopie in

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  he said that the parents of df or inactive do not have right to help there child why not?

  his answer its above there pay grade.

  he also said another witness helped this young lady she was a sister so another person can help your child but you cannot he said let jehovah help them.audeince dead silent..

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  "Audience dead silence" That is impressive.
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  Just out of curiosity, how many elders (current & ex) do we have here?

  by mrquik in

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  ex- elder 1968-1999
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  Why Are You Here?

  by Believer in

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  i'm wondering why believers remain members of this forum which is clearly hostile to believers.

  as one member said, nonbelievers pounce on any semblance of belief like piranhas on prey.

  as former jws we should have had our fill of judgmental know-it-alls, but here we are.

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  In the 2013 RC talk on "Human Apostates" they mentioned a apostate using a new tactic of writting letters to the homes of individual publishers [NY since 1989, individual residences since 2004]. I am that "apostate". Hence I follow the site very close for the purpose of keeping abreast with the latest happenings. The church is VERY effective in using shunning as a tool to erect a very high fence between 'their people' and 'apostates' so there is no communication. BUT the internal 'grapevine' with in the church works very well, get the information into the 'grape vine' and it gets spread to the those of whom are my targeted elders [every letter gets sent to church Service Dept. by a designated elder].

  You are right there seems to be a large number of 'glass half empty' posters. If you wanted to go back and read my posts I connected the biggest story to come out of the new RNWT to a VERY controversial 1987 Wt article "A Time to Speak" When" that sets out church policy on informing on the brotherhood. Yet to date no one of the 'glass half full' posters have taken the time to make the connection that the WTBS did more than shoot themselves in the foot when they released the RNWT as it clearly shows WTBS policies to be apostate in substance.

  This is a timely post as locally there is a lot of consternation going on with in the elder community in the Redding Ca. area. In my last few letters I made connection between Lev.5:1, Deut.22:25-27 and 1Pet.2: 14-16. The results being that my disfellowshipped son [now living with me] during the past two weeks has had four sets of instructions as to elders wanting to set up a meeting with to talk, one being we think the circuit overseer. Yet the meetings were changed then postponed. This being Sunday the last of circuit overseer visit to son's home cong. we will see if it is either going to be on or back to silence. That should be pretty unprecedented that they would be the one to initiate contact with a disfellowshipped person.

  So yes this site has been valuable for information to be used in a mental chess match between myself and the church Service Dept. that is played out on the chess board of the local church grape vine.

  Bill Covert
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  My Pseudo-Education Hasn't Hurt Me None, I Can Still Read the Writing on King Belshazzar's Wall~Part III

  by TMS in

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  before i go to extreme south texas, let me acknowledge an early influence that gave me self-worth, self-assurance, self-esteem and the feeling that i was as good as any damn person on this planet.. larry ranch, my congregation servant in renton, washington(home of boeing aircraft), was on my dad's judicial committee.

  my dad had sexually molested my sister, sandy, repeatedly.

  my dad got probation from the judicial committee.

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  Yes there were some real people in that era. I am 70 and veiewed the generation proir as indeed the greatest generation in this country. Those who went through the great depression, WW 2. Those were the people who made the JW religion respectable. In the JW community there were individuals [both men and women] who were the father and mother figures. It was said somewhere " it takes a village to raise a boy OR girl" and it was folks like Larry who left their mark on us 'baby boomers'.

  But all that has been eroded by the "obedience to the organization mantra". The WTBS is now a "system" and those who know how to work a system are the elders who leave their mark on the younger generation. Big diffrence between how those of us 'baby bomers' turned out, having ' Larry Ranch's' as father figures compared with the present day crop of JW young adults.

  that was a neat post, Thanks
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  Article: Autopsy: Prince Died Of Overdose Of Fentanyl

  by AndersonsInfo in

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  http://minnesota.cbslocal.com/2016/06/02/prince-autopsy-death-toxicology/.

  minneapolis (wcco/ap) — autopsy results show that prince died of a self-administered overdose of fentanyl, and his death was ruled accidental.. the 57-year-old singer was found dead april 21 at his minneapolis-area estate.

  the findings confirm suspicions that opioids played a role in the musician’s death.. after he died, authorities began reviewing whether an overdose was to blame and whether he had been prescribed drugs in the preceding weeks.. according to the national institute on drug abuse, fentanyl is more potent than morphine, and is “sometimes used to treat people with chronic pain who are physically tolerant to opiates.”.

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  Should make for quite a story if connection made connecting the pain killers to Princes bad hip joints and his JW 'policy' of blood prohibition preventing joint replacements.